Disney Now Has More Total Streaming Subscriptions Than Netflix — but Disney Generates Much Lower Per-Sub Revenue (2024)

One headline number out of Disney‘s quarterly results Wednesday seemed to show a notable milestone: The Mouse House had 221.1 million total subscriptions worldwide across its streaming services (Disney+, Disney+ Hotstar, Hulu and ESPN+). At first glance, that makes it look like Disney is now just ahead of Netflix, which ended Q2 with 220.7 million total paid subscribers.

But the value of those subscriber bases is much different.

Domestically, for example, Disney+ generated about 39% as much revenue per subscriber as Netflix for the second calendar quarter, a measure referred to in the finance world as ARPU (average revenue per user). And overseas, the contrast is even starker: Disney+ Hotstar, which is available in India and other Southeast Asian countries — and represents 38% of the overall Disney+ customer base — had an ARPU of $1.20/month for the quarter ended July 2, while Netflix had an ARPU of $8.83/month for the Asia Pacific region.

Separately, Netflix takes issue with comparing Disney’s subscriptions to Netflix’s subscribers. According to the way Disney tallies its streaming numbers, one household that takes the Disney Bundle — with Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+ — is counted as three separate subscriptions. A much better apples-to-apples comparison would show Disney’s unduplicated streaming subscribers (i.e., households), but that’s a figure the company does not disclose.

When Disney+ first launched in November 2019, it rapidly amassed market share by pricing the streamer at the low, low price of $6.99/month. That was nearly half Netflix’s standard plan at the time.

But that low entry point has meant Disney’s flagship streamer makes less money than Netflix, the historical category leader. For the three months ended July 2, Disney+ domestic ARPU (U.S. and Canada) was $6.27 per month, a 5% decline from the year earlier, likely the result of a skew toward the Disney Bundle and inclusion of Disney+ (and ESPN+) in Hulu’s live TV package. That’s compared with Netflix, which reported an ARPU of $15.95 per month in the U.S./Canada region for Q2, up 10% due to price increases.

Now Disney+ is trying to raise its profitability profile, as U.S. streaming subscriber growth has slowed for not just Disney+ but nearly every player in the biz. In the U.S. and Canada, Disney+ picked up just 100,000 paid subs in the recent quarter, to reach 44.5 million.

Concurrent with its earnings release, Disney announced a 38% price hike for the “premium” Disney+ no-ads version of the service, which will go up to $10.99/month on Dec. 8, 2022. That same day, the media company will introduce Disney+ Basic, an advertising-supported tier that will be available at the previous $7.99/month price.

That, of course, is designed to drive up Disney+’s ARPU, with the combo of the price increase (offset by the inevitable resulting churn) and the into of the ad-supported Disney+ Basic tier, which could produce higher ARPU if the Mouse House can successfully monetize it at the high ad rates execs have touted.

Hulu also is set for a price hike in Q4: On Oct. 10, the price of Hulu with ads will go up a buck, from $6.99 to $7.99 per month, while the ad-free tier will go up two dollars, from $12.99 to $14.99 per month. For the most recent quarter, the ARPU for Hulu’s subscription VOD service (available only in the U.S.) was $12.92 per month — down 2% year over year, again likely because of bundle discounts. That’s higher than Disney+, but still below Netflix’s ARPU in the region.

ESPN+ ARPU nosed up 2%, to $4.55/month, for the quarter ended July 2. As previously announced, ESPN+ rates will increase by three dollars monthly in August, going from $6.99 to $9.99 per month.

Disney expects Disney+ to reach profitability in fiscal year 2024 (which ends that September). In the most recent quarter, the media conglomerate’s streaming losses increased: Disney’s direct-to-consumer revenue was $5.06 billion for the quarter, up 19% — but below Wall Street expectations of $5.2 billion, per FactSet. The operating loss for the DTC segment ballooned to $1.06 billion, versus $293 million in the year-earlier period. (Netflix posted Q2 revenue of $7.97 billion and net income of $1.44 billion.)

“As a result of this slowdown in new subscriber additions, we have seen many in the industry pivot to a new wave of sobriety” — with a focus on streaming profitability, MoffettNathanson principal analyst Michael Nathanson wrote in an Aug. 11 research note. “We on Wall Street have taken notice. Gone are the sum-of-the-parts models using revenue multiples or even the metric of EV/content spending. From here on out, we hope the focus for streamers is return on invested capital and free cash flow generation.”

Also note that while Disney expects “core Disney+” growth to continue on its expected trajectory through 2024, the company cut projections for Disney+ Hotstar over that time period given the loss of Indian Premiere League cricket rights. With the warning about a slowdown in India, Disney lowered the subscriber target for Disney+ over to 215 million-245 million global subscribers by the end of its fiscal year 2024, down from 230 million-260 million previously.

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Disney Now Has More Total Streaming Subscriptions Than Netflix — but Disney Generates Much Lower Per-Sub Revenue (2024)

FAQs

Why is Disney streaming losing so much money? ›

Consumers were left picking up the tab for blockbuster furlough payments creating a global cost of living crisis that endures to this day. It led to people cutting their streaming subscriptions and left Disney with a loss-making platform.

How does Disney's streaming services compare to Netflix's? ›

Bottom line. Both Disney+ and Netflix are top-tier streaming services, but if you have to choose only one, you should stick with Netflix for now. It costs more, but it also offers a significantly larger content library and a wider variety of movies and TV shows. Of course, it depends on what you want to watch.

Who makes more money Disney or Netflix? ›

Key stat: Netflix will overtake Disney+ in ad revenues next year, amassing $1.03 billion versus Disney's $911.9 million, per our forecast. Beyond the chart: Disney+ will account for less viewing time in 2024 (8 minutes a day) than Netflix (32 minutes a day), per our forecasts.

Does Netflix or Disney have more subscribers? ›

A little more than two years later, Disney made its first pass at dominance in the June quarter of 2022 with 221.1 million total subscriptions vs. 220.67 million for Netflix. However: It's worth noting that “subscriptions” are not the same thing as “subscribers.”

How is Disney losing money on streaming? ›

Disney+ lost roughly 11.7 million subscribers worldwide in the three months that ended July 1, for a new total of 146.1 million. All the decline came from a low-priced version of Disney+ in India. Last year, Disney lost a bid to renew the expensive rights to Indian Premier League cricket matches.

Is Disney streaming service losing subscribers? ›

Executive Editor, Business. Following an October 12 price increase, the core Disney+ streaming service lost 1.3 million subscribers, the company revealed on Wednesday. Not including India's Hotstar, Disney+ ended the 2023 calendar year with 111.3 million subscribers.

Can Disney beat Netflix? ›

Disney is aggressively forecasting that Disney+ itself will overtake Netflix in 2024, as it remains in high growth mode. It added 14.4 million subscribers in the second quarter, beating analysts' expectations, while Netflix struggled this year with its first loss of subscribers in a decade.

What does Netflix have that Disney doesn t? ›

Netflix offers more original titles

While shows like Loki and Andor have been high-quality successes, they're connected to larger cinematic universes. And unlike Netflix, there aren't many original movies dropping on the platform.

Is Disney streaming worth it? ›

Still, it's the way to go if you or your kids dig Disney classics, Pixar animations, Star Wars films, or Marvel movies. Disney's film catalog is consistently high-quality when compared with many competing video streaming services.

Is Disney or Netflix cheaper? ›

To get a like-for-like comparison as far as features are concerned, Disney Plus is more affordable at $13.99 a month compared to Netflix's Premium plan at $22.99 a month. Disney Plus also offers an annual plan for $139.99, which helps you save even more.

How did Disney overtake Netflix? ›

Disney now boasts 221 million streaming customers across all of its platforms—beating the 220.7 million subscribers Netflix announced in July—after Disney+ added 14.4 million customers in the past quarter ending July 2.

Who is richer Disney or Amazon? ›

Amazon's net worth is around a trillion dollars and Disney is worth 180 billion so Amazon is maybe one of the few companies that could if it was ever a thing.

Why Disney is better than Netflix? ›

We recommend going with Disney+. Netflix has a spectacular suite of shows and movies for children – but Disney is Disney. With Disney+ you have access to multiple movies from Disney's legendary back catalogue, plus Pixar movies, and a great selection of fantastic kids' TV shows.

Did Disney pass Netflix in subscribers? ›

subscriber clarification: Walt Disney's total DTC subscriptions all in totaled 221.1 million for the company's fiscal third quarter ended in June. That was a big beat for Disney+ and its parent. It also passed Netflix in total subscriptions.

What is the number 1 streaming service? ›

Netflix is the biggest streaming service in the world. The company reported 260.28 million global paid memberships as of December 31, 2023. That number was up 5.3 percent from the previous quarter, and up nearly 13 percent year over year.

Why is Disney struggling financially? ›

But the future of the House of Mouse hangs in the balance as the company contends with a still-unprofitable streaming business, an ongoing actors strike, declining attendance at Disney World Resort in central Florida, legal battles with Republican presidential candidate Florida Gov.

How bad is Disney losing money? ›

Disney's direct-to-consumer unit reported a $138 million operating loss in the quarter. Including the performance at ESPN+, losses for all its streaming businesses narrowed to $216 million, from $1.05 billion in the prior-year period.

Why is Disney Plus not streaming well? ›

Refresh, close or restart your web browser or app and open it again. Close other applications on your device that may be running at the same time. If your device is on a mobile 3G, 4G or 5G network, try using a Wi-Fi network for more reliable video streaming.

Why are streaming services losing so much money? ›

High licensing costs and low revenues per subscriber quickly caught up with studios, which had previously placated shareholders with massive subscription growth. Netflix was the first streamer to report a loss in subscribers in 2022, sending its stock and other media companies spiraling. Disney has followed suit.

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