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Sat Jan 18 2020 23:15:20 |
By: Reader |
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eBay's seller protections for Top Rated Sellers is nuanced and can be confusing. Can you help this seller who has a question? Dear Ina, I cannot find the policy anywhere on eBay that says negative feedback is automatically removed for "free return shipping" powersellers. I think that they pulled the benefit without an announcement. The CSR I spoke to today said that it only applies (negative feedback removal) when the item is returned. If it's not returned, feedback removal is not an option. This policy gave me great peace of mind because it gave me back a little power in dealing with unreasonable buyers. "Please return for a refund. You may print a free return label." I knew that if I did everything right, I wouldn't have to stress over bad feedback being left. It was nice not being held hostage. B. Note from the editor: See seller protections announced in the Fall Seller Updateon this eBay.com help page. |
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by: mjr55 |
Sun Jan 19 02:59:22 2020 |
Most of the US-based CS reps are really great.....however, whoever it was that OP spoke to is clueless. No such policy has ever existed. |
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by: FeelingFroggy |
Sun Jan 19 08:21:18 2020 |
As a power seller for years I have never had a negative feedback removed because of free shipping and free item returns. Even though the item was returned. No such policy has ever existed that I know of. |
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by: ebayisscrewed |
Sun Jan 19 10:49:16 2020 |
The OP is correct. When the protections for Free Returns were first initiated, eBay offered sellers Feedback Protection for just having Free Returns on the listing. Somewhere in 2019, eBay deleted that blanket benefit and started saying that the return had to be opened and closed out for the feedback protection to be provided. Previously to this if a buyer left negative feedback on an item that offered Free Returns, the feedback could be removed. Now if the return is not opened by the buyer and closed out with a refund to the buyer by the seller, they will not remove the feedback. YES THIS IS A SHIFT IN POLICY AND NO, THEY DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT . . . IT JUST HAPPENED. |
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Sun Jan 19 11:57:22 2020 |
This is all I could find. Convoluted at best.Protections for Top Rated Sellers coming in October Top Rated Sellers (TRS) who reside in the US and offer 30 day or longer returns will be protected on items listed on eBay.com when: A buyer falsely claims an item was not as described We will subsidize the return shipping label cost up to $6.00 per return for any false claim filed by a buyer that an item was not as described |
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by: quirkyantiques |
Sun Jan 19 12:48:43 2020 |
@canbrit Ummmm...…..if anyone believes a word of what Ebay said there, they're foolish. First are the weasel words "IF we determine buyer falsely claims". Ebay usually ALWAYS takes the word of the buyer over the seller. Getting Ebay to admit to having unscrupulous buyers is like trying to push cold molasses uphill with a toothpick. Good luck trying to refund HALF of a Paypal payment too. Buyer just puts in a INAD claim for the FULL amount. If that fails they put in a credit card chargeback for the full amount. Also "if we're asked to step in you'll be unable to partially refund". Savvy crooked buyers start caterwauling to Ebay-open a case and buyer "experience" is everything to Ebay. I would take that statement by Ebay to be unreliable at best. |
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by: Snapped |
Sun Jan 19 13:33:19 2020 |
“ If the report qualifies:...lAs if. The rest is pablum, and locked up, even so, dispensed only to the worthy, disregarding due process. The create the disease, and the insurance policy to pay for the treatment. Qualifies. Right. Physician, heal thyself. |
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Sun Jan 19 13:35:11 2020 |
@quirkyantiquesDon't you worry. I've been on eBay a while and I haven't believed anything they've written or said. I just go on on my merry way and do the best I can for my customers. The only thing they've ever done that truly surprised me was when they took off three defects for late shipping because I was in the hospital. Even then, I just it was pure luck and the CS was in a good mood. |
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by: 1st Armored Division 1971-1973 |
Mon Jan 20 00:09:21 2020 |
Ebay will remove feedback even if it falls outside of the guidelines.I had a customer leave me a negative feedback recently. They never complained about the product, never asked to return it, and as far as I know they were perfectly satisfied with it. What they complained about was I would not negotiate the price, shipping was too high, and I think the price was too high. Ebay agreed with me this was an abuse of the feedback policy. Everything the customer complained about they knew up front. Ebay removed the negative feedback. |
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by: Marie |
Mon Jan 20 02:04:20 2020 |
The Power Seller program on Ebay has next to zero benefits for sellers. To my knowledge the only benefit that remains for PS's are the delay on negative FB. Buyer's can't post negative FB on a PS until 7+ days after purchase.Now there were specifically stated benefits for any seller that had the Free Return policy on their listings. And it use to have it's own policy page, but I haven't been able to find it for a few months now. I did have asked Ebay about it, but no one seems to know what the heck I'm talking about. Initially Free Returns had the benefit of the ability to discount a return refund up to 50% if it met the requirements Ebay listings. And if the seller gave a discounted refund the seller's FB was protected from negative or neutral FB from the buyer. I think this part is what is being confused here. it wasn't that the FB was protected for any reason. It was specific to discounted refunds. But while I can't seem to locate the policy page anymore, it is still outlined on the Seller Update it was introduced on. When you review this keep in mind, the protection on FB is as I stated above. ONLY on partial refunds.https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/20 |
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by: ebayisscrewed |
Mon Jan 20 08:15:40 2020 |
@marie"And if the seller gave a discounted refund the seller's FB was protected from negative or neutral FB from the buyer. I think this part is what is being confused here. it wasn't that the FB was protected for any reason. It was specific to discounted refunds." Correct and not correct. Yes, partial refunds were protected through the system but so too was any listing that offered Free Returns. This benefit as well as the partial refund benefit and many others were changed when eBay released the BS Fall Seller Protection update. Ebay slyly removed many of the perks sellers had regarding Free Returns at this time. They removed pages. They deleted benefits. |
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by: SomeRandy |
Mon Jan 20 08:27:36 2020 |
Removal was only for returned items that the seller paid for return shipping. This was always the policy, if the customer did not return the item, then you're sh*t out of luck, eBay never said they would remove it if the item wasn't returned. I'm going to have to side with eBay on this one, regardless of others' negative views on eBay. |
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by: DevilishlySarky |
Mon Jan 20 08:31:58 2020 |
Ive had three feedback removed recently , all three contravene "rules" one was social commentry "where is my item ,its not arrived yet " (this had arrived at their destination but got sent back to me as they didnt act on the card left by the carrier when they wern'tin when they called . |
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by: ebayisscrewed |
Mon Jan 20 08:52:30 2020 |
@somerandyFeedback Removal was for listings that offered Free Returns, regardless of whether or not a customer used it. Again, this changed in 2019. Between our multiple, accounts, all with 3000 to 4000 items, all with over 600 transactions per month, this policy was used successfully up until the Summer of 2019 - soon thereafter the new Seller Protection Update went into effect. This changed the previous feedback protection. Get the right customer service agent and they will probably admit it or they will use the ebay favorite, "Well you see this a "GRAY" area . . . blah blah blah." |
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Mon Jan 20 14:58:05 2020 |
Calling it nuanced and confusing is being very polite!The 2018 policy was for TRS offering Free Returns - dusted-off some old bookmarks for this one (including a friendly debate with Marie 😉). The 2nd link in the list of links above is the one bookmarked and referenced when needed. There were significant process (and logic) gaps in the policy from the get-go when it rolled-out (4th link above). That eBay and everyone else is confused is completely unsurprising, especially given that the execs involved with this have all been blown-up and eBay support never really understood it in the 1st place (again, suggest to bookmark that link if you're a TRS and need FB protection on an item w/Free returns 👆). |
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Mon Jan 20 15:59:55 2020 |
There I went and mucked it up myself, conflating the new and old protections (links are obviously correct, but my statement including TRS is not, that's under the new 'protections')The 2018 protections did *not* require TRS status, just 30-day free returns. |
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by: Windkissed |
Thu Jan 23 08:18:56 2020 |
Why does this apply to only POWER Sellers? I have a no return policy to cut down on silly returns. It works well. I recently had a situation where a buyer bought a beaded belt from me and claimed the photos were not as advertised. She opened a claim against me to return the belt. I issued a return label, then later that day she closed the claim. I contacted her to find out why. She said she painted the belt with nail polish and it looked better?????? After several contacts she decided to keep the belt. I said if you are happy with it then I am happy with it. Then a week later she gives me a negative review. I went out of my way to make sure she could return the item, but them she damaged it or altered it. It is no longer returnable. I relayed that information to her. So why did she leave a negative against ME, when she obviously damaged the item? Something like this should be removed from my account as I had a 100% rating? That was not my photos. If she did not like the belt she should of returned it as indicated without damaging it. |
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